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willie nelson · Jan 17, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48

"Hey guys we've got nothing on GW2 right now, could you just chuck something out to keep the player whining about something else besides the fact we haven't given them any information on GW2 for almost two years now"

"Sure thing. Anything else."

"Yeah don't do it like right now, delay it till April or something, cuz we won't have anything out for at least another year, or ever..."

"No problem. Later!"

"Later!"

Nude Nira · Jan 17, 2009, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by daraaksii

Wtf storage update. Seriously.

Do you remember the implement of Sorrow's Furnace? Now that was new content. More storage? Who gives a damn?

Sorrows Furnace was added how many years ago? Remember, Anet had everyone working on the game at the time. Now let's fast forward, Anet has like 2 people working on the game, do you really think two people could acomplish anything like Sorrows Furnace in a reasonable amount of time?

NeHoMaR · Jan 17, 2009, 06:24 PM // 18:24

The only this Developer Update tell me, is GW2 is taking more time than expected to develop; that's a good thing, I think.

odly · Jan 17, 2009, 06:30 PM // 18:30

The long waited HoM update is announced again.
More storage.

Good.

recon54 · Jan 17, 2009, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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We are even expanding the Live Team to offer more of the best quality support and content that we can for Guild Wars.

from this minor statement i gather that chances are a decently sized group of anet employees just finished what they were working on in GW2 and are now free to start working with the live team. So theres some GW2 news for ya.

Ajantis · Jan 17, 2009, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by natuxatu

Sorry but this is very unimpressive. I don't think at this point anyone really wants Anet to work on another tab of stroage.. in the end it's still going to be more of the same unless they add new areas to explore and what not. Wish they'd get on with Guild Wars 2.. they announced that way too early imo.

They had to.. Else you would've been crying why they canceled Utopia and never announced anything else..

slowerpoke · Jan 17, 2009, 07:32 PM // 19:32

mox and even the bmp were a few hours distraction at best

ohh only 3+months till the next update

these sparse updates are no substitute for proper fresh content, bring on gw2

Operative 14 · Jan 17, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by Original Dev Update in question

Coming Attractions

The Live Team is now designing the first big content update of 2009, which we expect to release in April. We had many discussions towards the end of last year and ended up with a major wish list and a plan for what it would take to make that list a reality. At this point, we have a clear idea of what is ahead of us and we hope everyone will be as excited about these prospects as we are.
Here are a few features we are currently developing for April:

Increases to account-based storage
Improvements to character-based storage
Account-based changes to the Hall of Monuments

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Originally Posted by Linsey Murdock's Journal, 1/15/09

Today the Live Team made a big announcement. Needless to say, we are all very excited about these changes and what they mean for Guild Wars. The little tidbits we listed are just the beginning and certainly not all we have planned for April. <3

http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/U...urdock/Journal

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra's Journal, 1/9/09

... We're going to be releasing some news to give you an idea of what we have in store for GW1 this year. Look for that soon. I think people will be very excited about what we're working on...

http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/U...naobra/Journal

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra, Topic "(Dev Update) - 15 January 2009", Page 4, Post #73

...I'd also like to note that the three listed features are a few of what we're working on for April.

Have a little faith, guys. Arenanet likes to deliver surprises, like adding a new town and quest line to 2008's Wintersday, the MOX Quests, Hardmode, the endgame area for Prophecies, not mention when they added the additional 3 storage tabs, and many other fun surprises.

Storage is not all they are updating or adding in April. It's just what they've told us so that we aren't spending the next four months wondering where our dev team has gone. Would you have been happier with nothing?

Kattar · Jan 17, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Simple solution - release content packs every 6 months, like promised.

I don't remember seeing that anywhere.

Marverick · Jan 17, 2009, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by Operative 14

Have a little faith, guys. Arenanet likes to deliver surprises, like adding a new town and quest line to 2008's Wintersday, the MOX Quests, Hardmode, the endgame area for Prophecies, not mention when they added the additional 3 storage tabs, and many other fun surprises.

Storage is not all they are updating or adding in April. It's just what they've told us so that we aren't spending the next four months wondering where our dev team has gone. Would you have been happier with nothing?

That's true, but...

I think ANet would want to list the best updates they have planned. Not a few minor ones. Because atm people are leaving the game, and saying "big update" and listing only a few minor ones which "aren't all" is just a huge turnoff to those people. If they had listed maybe just 1 anticipated update, that "might" keep a lot of people playing.

Yes, surprise is good, but now is not really the time for surprises...

Abedeus · Jan 17, 2009, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by Katsumi

I don't remember seeing that anywhere.

I think I've read few times about 2 add-ons per year. That's 12/2 = 1 every 6 months.

Sin City Gamer · Jan 17, 2009, 09:09 PM // 21:09

While happy with the "content" that is to be added, and okay with the suggested time-frame, my concern lies once again with the manner in which the information was released...

I have a wiki account, and am on the wiki quite a bit. However, it is not the most efficient way of releasing information from the developers. I think that the suggestions to move official news from developers and community managers to a more permanent/accessible home on the official website is a good start.

Guru is not the "be all, end all" of GW, but it is an Elite Fansite. (Not the only one, mind you, but still...) I think that more communication from the "Community Relations" staff at ANet here and on other fansites would be a huge step in the right direction.

I do realize that not much can be said about GW2 at this point, but we barely have any official confirmation on what's happening in GW1...

Also, while I understand that dealing with certain customers can at times be a royal pain, is it too much to ask that when we do get some sort of communication that it come in a more professional manner than: (not directly quoted, but the gist of it is here) I posted where everyone can access it, deal with it, you are so unappreciative of what I do for you, other portions of the community are way nicer than you...

Fril Estelin · Jan 17, 2009, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

I think I've read few times about 2 add-ons per year. That's 12/2 = 1 every 6 months.

You know fully well, given your seniority in the game, that this was the original "goal" (not promise) and there was more than a year between Factions and NF, thus making obvious they couldn't reach the goals.

Like said before, Anet has without any doubt surprises for us in stock. Last Wintersday was a good example of that, and I surely hope Canthan New Year will be as fun (please, pretty please, fix the syncing problem!, Dragon Arena has the potential to be a fantastic training ground from PvE to PvP, and a lot of fun, if it's really a random arena...). But I think this announcement could have benefited from a little "bang" information to illustrate where they're going (improving storage is the proof that they're indeed fixing the game so as to answer player's requests), not necessarily the whole band on the rest of the April update.

I guess now they'll only announce what they know they can achieve with 100% satisfaction, QA included. They announce small, and deliver, but it's as small as the size of the Live Team (here lies the real problem, there should have been a bit more people before, but it's happening now and I'm not going to complain). And I'll conclude by saying that there's very probably a lot of things happening behind the scene that we know nothing about but I'm sure there's a lot more thinking than we think about this announcement.

Yet it gives the feeling of a small anticlimax. But patience is our best ally.

Rocky Raccoon · Jan 18, 2009, 12:13 AM // 00:13

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Read what the golden circle says in the upper-left corner of the forum.

"Elite Fansite".

If a Community Manager doesn't visit or post important things on an Elite Fansite, then where else?

Besides, what kind of CM makes fans ask him/her for some news? I thought CM's job is informing the community what's going on, not to wait and see if they ask.

Likewise it is up to the community to check the official site from time to time. It takes very little effort to do so and we shouldn't have to be spoon fed everything.

Gun Pierson · Jan 18, 2009, 01:08 AM // 01:08

You can talk all you want about wiki pages and whatnot. I think Anet is not big enough yet to host and moderate an official forum like Blizzard does. Or they don't want to get involved with an own forum for some reason(s) I still don't know about. The population is spread like ingame now and that's not a good thing imo.

Guru and the other elite sites were here from the original launch of GW. After that GW wiki started to appear.

People got used to the elite sites for years and from one day to the other they had to go to wiki. What did you expect? On top Wiki doesn't really have the ideal format for proper discussion or announcements. It's an encyclopedia sorta style with a different interface than forums and with a different goal in mind.

So we need to look out there and find bits of info and bring it over and discuss that on the forums. That's even worse than it was before. It's an extra link in the chain.

Sure everybody can go to the wiki, but is this really the best way of communicating?

@risky ranger: spoon fed? It's their job, they get paid for it. Or do we have to do their job for free while they rake in the cash? Let them work for it. Give them the chance to grow and do their job properly.

Lastly, it's business and communication is vital.

pumpkin pie · Jan 18, 2009, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by daraaksii

Wtf storage update. Seriously.

Do you remember the implement of Sorrow's Furnace? Now that was new content. More storage? Who gives a damn?

obvious lots of players do

Chthon · Jan 18, 2009, 01:56 AM // 01:56

If more storage, better storage (presumably specialized storage for certain item types, like we have for materials), and account-wide HoM were the only updates in the pipeline, I would still be very pleased.

The only thing that could make me happier would be that dumb timer coming off of Soul Reaping (cough cough)...

wtfisgoingon · Jan 18, 2009, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Anyone know when the next skill update is?

shoyon456 · Jan 18, 2009, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

obvious lots of players do

I think what he means is that if anet is going months on end of resources just to implement a few more storage spaces... he (like myself) would be content with just using mules.

Storage has been a problem for a long time, people have dealt with it, and while I do appreciate that anet is finally trying to deal with it at possibly no cost to players, it matters little when people are leaving and GW2 (should) be well underway. Once GW2 is released, or is close to release, I doubt ppl will care what anet does to gw1.

It kind of concerns me that anet is planning to devote more time to certain things in gw1. It concerns me because it leads me to believe that they want to keep ppl content with gw1, because gw2 is a longer way off.

The main attention of this dev update should be the account wide HoM update, because once gw2 is released, it will be the only thing to have a major effect on gameplay. I look forward to that update, as I have been for months.

Kakumei · Jan 18, 2009, 03:06 AM // 03:06

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

You know fully well, given your seniority in the game, that this was the original "goal" (not promise) and there was more than a year between Factions and NF, thus making obvious they couldn't reach the goals.

What are you talking about? From release to EotN, there was never more than a year between each product, and only six months between your stated Factions and Nightfall.